Showing posts with label Melissa Silverstein. Show all posts
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Monday, June 23, 2014







But this year could be a breakthrough year for women directors. I know it is overly optimistic and a tad delusional to think that women could get two nominations for best director, but there are two women — Angelina Jolie for Unbroken and Ava DuVernay for Selma – who should get HARD looks come awards time. The fact that both women have made movies about men will just enhance their chances of getting noticed.

Angelina Jolie, arguably, has had the best year of her career. As an actress she was able to propel Maleficent to great box office heights — this past weekend it crossed $500 million worldwide at the box office. She just co-convened an international conference on sex crimes in war, and was made a dame by Queen Elizabeth.  But is will be her film Unbroken based on the best selling book of the same name by Laura Hillenbrand  that will get Jolie into the Oscar conversation as a potential best director.

The movie just screams Oscar. It was written by Joel and Ethan Coen with additional writing credits to William Nicholson and Richard LaGravenese. And it’s a story about a man who survived incredible odds. Here’s the imdb description: “A chronicle of the life of Louis Zamperini, an Olympic runner who was taken prisoner by Japanese forces during World War II.” And keep in mind that Jolie is not a directing novice. She made the really terrific and underseen film In the Land of Blood and Honey about the Bosnian war in 2011.
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Thursday, February 23, 2012

Roth Cornet & Melissa Silverstein: Women in the Film Industry


Women and Oscar

And other things rich white men like
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Earlier this week the LA Times unveiled the fruit of 20 researchers’ labor: old, rich, white men dominate the AMPAS. I was as shocked as you are.
I kid. I do. There’s nothing wrong with the article as such, and the structural dynamics of the Academy do bear looking at.
One of the strange, self-devouring aspects of the internet is that it is now common practice for critics to reflect on, riff off, add to or otherwise deconstruct one another’s work. A positive element of the trend is that a conversation develops in our virtual realm. Of course, levels of discourse are, as ever, varied. We’ve not yet weighed in on the matter and I do so now with a grain of salt, and a bit more sass than I had originally intended. Is it earth shattering news? Clearly not. Does it seem to be indicative of an overindulgence of the paper’s resources? Ish.
Let’s take a glance at the United States Congress. According to ThisNation, the House has 362 men and 76 women. In the Senate, there are 17 women and 83 men. 361 members of the House are white, 44 are African American, 25 are Hispanic and seven are Asian. 96 members of the Senate are white, two are Hispanic and two are Asian. To be frank, I’d rather see the LA Times devote those man-hours to investigating how the racial and gender composition of Congress effects the way laws are created and implemented.
(Hint: They convene a council on women’s reproductive health issues, and decide that it’s best for the ladies to retire to the drawing room at that time.)
I assess a fair portion of this situation from the feminine perspective because it is one I can speak to on an experiential level. But the truth is that the bias revealed in the LA Times piece is felt across gender and race lines.
We’ve all had to manage and negotiate the burden of perception in one way or another. Though the lion’s share of the people in my field are remarkable creatures I feel blessed to know, I tire of the indulgent looks a small (but felt) number my colleagues bestow upon me as they assume a position of grandiosity whilst stating their cinematic opinions. It seems to matter little to them what my background may or may not be, and they rarely bother to investigate as it is so much easier to assume, for the most part, inaccurately. I am a small blond female and have encountered countless “oh, look, it talks and knows what color reversal is!” expressions of shock mid-interview with a filmmaker. Annoying? Very. But there are certainly larger issues in the universe, even in my own little world.
I can say with clarity that I’ve had jobs where I was hired based on appearance (though they were primarily in a service capacity) and I have had positions where, due to superficially based perceptions, I was paid less than a male who had fewer skills and qualifications than I. And so it goes. Should it be an issue that I am a female? Who cares? It is one. Not one that defines my choices, but to pretend that things aren’t so keeps them stagnant. Women still earn roughly 75 cents to the male dollar here in the U.S. and until I receive a 25% “vagina discount” from my creditors, I’m going to find that more than a little bit problematic.
Does it matter that the Oscar voters are (as the LA Times reports) nearly 94% Caucasian and 77% male? Well, it does to me. It matters in the sense that it speaks to an industry that is grotesquely outdated and atrophied. It happens to be my industry, so yes, it matters. It affects the livelihoods of many people I care about, as well as my own. In light of a continued recession, it matters.

The real issue is employment and how these figures effect and reflect employment practices. Believe me, most of us would rather have a job than see the Academy manufacturing a false sense of diversity. Create diversity via your hiring patterns and then let that, over time, be reflected come Oscar night.
Here is a brief overview from the article of how employment breaks down along gender lines in the industry at present:
“Women account for 17% of film writers employment. The academy's producers branch is about 18% female, and the directors branch is 9% female, figures comparable to those in a study by San Diego State University's Martha Lauzen. She examined the 250 top-grossing movies of 2011 and found that women accounted for 25% of all of the films' producers, and 5% of all their directors.”
(Let us pause to really reflect on the fact that women represent over 50% of the population.)
As we can see, women have fared a bit better in the producer’s sphere. That is a good thing. And yet it so often feels like one step forward, two steps back. Brand new stereotypes have cropped up to stranglehold women in what is so often, at its root, a support role. “Producer” is an amorphous term in Hollywood. There are so many facets to the job that it can describe a myriad of positions. Sometimes it denotes a high level of influence (indeed, the most significant if you are a studio executive), sometimes it denotes a financial stake and sometimes it denotes a role that is more akin to a management position.
So we begin to hear things like “women are good producers because they are organized, because they can multitask, because they are nurturing” and so on. There may in fact be some truth to those assessments. I would not and do not argue that men and women are very different beasts. Indeed, I love those variances. I love that we each have some of the masculine and some of the feminine. I love the way that balance plays out in both our individual psyches, in our relationships and ultimately in society at large. I love the traits that are so uniquely male and I also, very much, love being a woman. The point is to recognize our unique skill sets and value them equally. Additionally, we must account for individual strengths and weaknesses.
It may be true that women (in very general terms) have some native and some developed attributes that lend themselves to a producer’s tasks. It is also true that those same attributes can, and do, lend themselves equally well to a director’s chair.
Scientists are working to understand how the physical differences in the male and female brain translate to traits and strengths. But one difference they can discern is that women have more white matter, a larger corpus collusum and more cellular connections, allowing for a faster transfer of information between the left and right sides of the brain. This means, theoretically, they can connect seemingly unrelated pieces of information and tend to conceptualize in less linear terms (think: big picture).
Whereas men have more grey matter, tend to operate more from the left-side of the brain, and function in more individuated terms (think: one task at a time). Both the male and female proclivities lend themselves to different, but effective, directorial styles that have an equal chance of yielding powerful and evocative films.
Of course, these are incredibly broad stokes and each person is going to bring their own singular talent palette to the table. But the endeavor is to get a seat at said table to begin with.
The Times article indicates that Frank Pierson, a former Academy president who won the Best Original Screenplay Oscar for "Dog Day Afternoon," feels that the Academy’s structure is a result of an egalitarian meritocracy. "I don't see any reason why the academy should represent the entire American population,” he said. “That's what the People's Choice Awards are for. We represent the professional filmmakers, and if that doesn't reflect the general population, so be it."
The notion that the financial and power discrepancies present in the world are entirely a result of the “cream rising to the top” as it were, is willfully ignorant, rude, self-aggrandizing, irresponsible and frankly bullshit. We could sit here and argue about the cause for the incongruity “on the ground.” But let us look at just the U.S. as an example.
The truth is, if you really cannot concede that a culture that emerged from a history of slavery, that signed the 14th amendment into law less than 50 years ago, never (yes never) signed the ERA into law and has misogyny imbedded in nearly every aspect of the language (“Hi, I am a FeMALE, be careful or I may get hysterical”) has some intrinsic and deeply ingrained biases then...you must be on your period.
With all that in mind, let's take a look at the (quite salient) video Melissa Silverstein of Women and Hollywood put together looking at some of the extraordinary work from women directors just this year. And let's also remind ourselves that in 84 years only four women (Lina Wertmüller, Jane Campion, Sofia Coppola and Kathryn Bigelow) have been nominated for Best Director.  Only one, Bigelow, has won.

Again, I must beg pardon for focusing on the feminine aspect of the issue, when the problem (and by that I mean inequity across industry and national lines) is clearly far larger in scope.
In any event, we must take note that this business of the Oscars is really a small matter in the grander scheme of global concerns. And the weight and gravity with which the LA Times presented their (somewhat “common-sense says”) study begged for a bit of ribbing. With that in mind, and to conclude on a slightly lighter note, here's a look at what goes on behind the cotton blend golfing pants curtain of the Academy Awards:


To The Academy: Consider the Women

Blogs by Melissa Silverstein | February 23, 2012



It's that time of year, The Academy Awards, the "Super Bowl for Women."  It's the night where we all get catty about whose dress doesn't work, who's got a new boyfriend or girlfriend, and who looks like they haven't eaten all month.
Because the world is paying attention to Hollywood in a bigger way this week there is an opportunity to raise awareness about gross inequities in the business.  So we here at Women and Hollywood are taking this opportunity to say that THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE WOMEN CONSIDERED FOR BEST DIRECTOR.
So we put together this video (it's only a little over a minute) highlighting some of the women directed films from this past year that were passed over.  We're not trying to say that all of them should have been nominated (though we think a couple of them should have), what we are trying to say is that we have to find a way to get women directors into these conversations.
We are so tired of watching parade after parade of men being praised for their work.  Last year at least we got to see Kathryn Bigelow up on the stage giving out the best director award, this year, the lack of women will be glaring.   Not only are there no women directors nominated, no films directed by women are nominated for best picture.



Here are the stats again:
  • In 2011, only 5% of the top grossing films in Hollywood were directed by Women.  The number has decreased since 1998.
  • In 84 years only 4 women -- Lina Wertmuller, Jane Campion, Sofia Coppola and Kathryn Bigelow -- have been nominated for best director.  One 1 has won.
We want to acknowledge the women directed films nominated:
  • Best Animated Feature: Jennifer Yuh Nelson for Kung Fu Panda 2;
  • Best Documentary Feature: Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory Charles Ferguson and Audrey Marrs
  • Documentary (Short Subject): The Barber of Birmingham: Foot Soldier of the Civil Rights Movement Robin Fryday and Gail Dolgin; God Is the Bigger Elvis Rebecca Cammisa and Julie Anderson; Saving Face Daniel Junge and Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy; The Tsunami and the Cherry Blossom Lucy Walker and Kira Carstensen
  • Foreign Language Film: Agnieszka Holland for In Darkness
Please feel free to send this video out far and wide, and on Sunday, remember that women directors voices and visions are missing from this very large cultural conversation.   Telling people this is a cultural problem and not just a gender equity problem is a first step.






Monday, December 26, 2011

Melissa Silverstein's Top List

In My Humble Opinion- The Best Female Directed Films of 2011

Blogs by Melissa Silverstein | December 26, 2011 | 
Top L-R: Lynne Ramsay, Larysa Kondracki, Susanne Bier; Bottom L-R: Dee Rees, Angelina Jolie, Celine Sciamma
It goes without saying that women made all kinds of films this year.  But the reality is that most made indie films.  Only a couple made studio films.  And the numbers of women directing films is still abysmally low.  But even in their small numbers women are making waves.  Here are some highlights:
Jennifer Yuh Nelson made a hugely successful animated film Kung Fu Panda 2 and now she is the highest grossing female director taking the title from Phyllida Lloyd who this year gave us Meryl Streep's tour de force in The Iron Lady.
Several actresses went behind the camera for the first time including Vera Farmiga (Higher Ground) and Angelina Jolie (In the Land of Blood and Honey).  Jodie Foster made The Beaver which unfortunately was stuck with the Mel Gibson whose baggage dragged down a very interesting film.
2011 continued to show the singular visions of  Miranda July (The Future) and Kelly Reichardt (Meek's Cutoff).  It proved that Lynne Ramsay is the real deal and introduced us to same new and exciting voices like Dee Rees (Pariah), Maryam Keshavarz (Circumstance) Ava Duvernay (I Will Follow)
Looking at the list of my best female directed films of the year most of the films tell the stories of girls and women.  And the other two look at war.  What these women are giving us are stories about women from a female perspective.  Interestingly to note five of the six films are written or co-written by the directors which shows that most women directors have to bring their own material in order to get behind the camera.
Every single one of the films below is from a bold, visionary woman and if we lived in a world where women's stories mattered as much as men's we'd be talking about these women in the same breath as their male colleagues.  The good news is that Susanne Bier won the Oscar for best foreign film in 2011.
We Need to Talk About Kevin - Lynne Ramsay
Pariah- Dee Rees
Tomboy- Celine Sciamma
The Whistleblower- Larysa Kondracki
In the Land of Blood and Honey- Angelina Jolie
In a Better World- Susanne Bier
I've linked to my reviews and some interviews for you to check out.  Interview with Dee Rees will be coming up tomorrow.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the women directed films of 2011.
Women Directed Movies of 2011 (Women and Hollywood)

Friday, December 23, 2011

Silverstein's and The Playlist's review

In the Land of Blood and Honey - Written and Directed by Angelina Jolie

Reviews by Melissa Silverstein | December 23, 2011

A couple of months ago the description of Angelina Jolie's writing and directing debut was that it was a love story set in the time of the Bosnian war.  I walked out of the film realizing that no matter how they want to describe it, this is a film about war.  It is about a war that most American don't know or understand and sadly, a war that most people here in the US don't care about.

But luckily Angelina Jolie decided that this war will not disappear just because it is convenient so she put pen to paper (at night after the kids had gone to sleep - can this woman do everything?) and wrote the script not really thinking it would be made.  But she is one of the most popular woman on the planet and she is the highest paid female star so she was able to get this film made on a small budget and on her own terms.

Not surprisingly to me -- but surprisingly to many -- she is quite a good director and the film, though brutal and difficult to watch, is very good.  It's incredibly well cast by most people who experienced the war and really gives you a sense of how this war pitted potential lovers against each other just because of how they were born.  It also reminds us of the absurdity of war.  Jolie also squarely takes on the use of rape as a tool of war and does not shy away from brutal depictions.

I feel this film is stuck in the pattern we have seen for women directed films this year, they are good and just not getting the necessary attention to rise above the din in terms of the awards discussion.  This film is a mighty good directorial debut and is worthy of praise for what is seen on screen not just because of Angelina Jolie's popularity.


The Playlist

Not into having your heart warmed? Angelina Jolie's directorial debut, "In The Land of Blood and Honey," opens today. The film follows an unlikely love story during the Bosnian War. Our review says Jolie "tells a compelling, tragic story, framed inside of an unlikely romance, and pulls it off without pulling any punches," and that it's "an assured screen debut from a woman who clearly has more than just on-screen talents." Starring Zana Marjanovic, Goran Kostic and Rade Serbedzija. RT: 50% MC: 56


Review: 'In the Land of Blood and Honey' A Harrowing But Sometimes Inelegant Directorial Debut from Angelina Jolie

Reviews by Drew Taylor | December 19, 2011 | 3 Comments
Angelina Jolie's presence in "In the Land of Blood and Honey," a film she directed but wisely chose not to star in, is both a gift and a curse. On the gift end, it's a megawatt star bringing some serious attention to an incident in our recent history that has either been glossed over, underreported, barely acknowledged or forgotten about completely – the atrocities in Bosnia and Herzegovina that brought ethnic cleansing back to Europe for the first time since World War II. Conversely, there will be those who claim, since Jolie is fabulous and wealthy and drop-dead sexy (besides being a U.N. ambassador and outspoken human rights advocate), that she has no business portraying what is still an incredibly raw part of the very recent past. For the most part, though, Jolie tells a compelling, tragic story, framed inside of an unlikely romance, and pulls it off without pulling any punches.
The movie begins with a young Muslim woman named Aja (Zana Marjanovic), waving goodbye to her sister (and small baby niece). She's going out on a first date with Danijel (Goran Kostic). We get glimpses of their first date, which seems incredibly romantic. While slow dancing on the dance floor, though, her head pressed against his chest, a bomb goes off, destroying the dance floor and killing and injuring many. They haven't even kissed yet, and the couple has already shared a traumatic experience.
We then jump ahead several months, when Serbian troops enter Aja's home, extracting her and her sister. It's after we're forced to watch a brutal rape by another officer, that it's Aja's turn for punishment. As she's pushed down, a soldier emerges from the background. It's Danijel. "I'll take this one," he says. But then he gets a look at the woman, and realizes it's Aja and shoos her away. Thus our central conflict is born: a Serbian officer in love with one of his Muslim prisoners. If that doesn't spell "doomed romance," we don't know what does.
Making matters even worse is that Danijel's father is an unsympathetic general named Nebojsa (Rade Serbedzija), who feels historically indebted to carry out this ethnic cleansing, after years of perceived systematic abuse. And while his expository monologue is helpful, if you weren't conscious of the atrocities that were happening at the time (either because you were too young or because, more likely, the conflict was outrageously underreported), the specifics, both historically and plot-wise, remain hazily out of focus.
But it's really the love story that we're asked to invest in, not the three-year-long campaign of cruelty, and Jolie does an admirable job of showing these two characters, who barely knew each other before the conflict, falling in love under the most unimaginable circumstances. Jolie brings her unblinking eye into the bedroom, with some refreshingly honest sex scenes. And you do begin to root for the characters to make it through, no matter how unlikely that seems.
As the story progresses, we also get glimpses of what was happening with the war, with President Clinton threatening action and Red Cross and UN envoys being deployed to the region. In one harrowing scene that amazingly doesn't feel much like a Hollywood action movie, a Red Cross truck, attempting to administer aid, is blown apart by a Serbian rocket attack. In a flash you think about not only the lives that were lost in the truck but also how many potential lives could have been saved, too, had it been allowed to continue.
And for the most part Jolie brings a graceful touch while remaining totally raw and honest. At times the direction seems slack and lazy, like during a moment when she focuses on prisoners of war who have their wrists bound, ready for execution, and she cuts to a shot of Aja, in the middle of kinky sex with Danijel, her hands tied up. It's enough to scream, "WE GET IT ANGIE," at the screen (but you don't of course, since the subject material is far too grim). Occasionally, too, her screenplay seems slack and saggy. Beyond the central romance, there's not a lot going on, plot-wise. Aja attempts to escape, gets captured, repeat. The storyline following her friends and close family, who join a resistance movement, isn't given enough attention and, when things ultimately turn south for them, the emotional weight isn't truly there.
But, for the most part, "In the Land of Blood and Honey" is an admirable film. Jolie, as a first-time writer/director, shows a respectable amount of focus and artistry (Gabriel Yared's score and Dean Semler's dusty, battle scarred photography are outstanding), dramatizing the events with a romantic edge that never trivializes the actual history or turns anything into a melodrama. In a weird way, it's reminiscent of "The Night Porter," in its depiction of a deeply conflicted sexual relationship between two ideological opposites, except that "In the Land of Blood and Honey" is far less kinky and free of any traces of camp, and it's a testament to the deeply nuanced and heartfelt performances by Marjanovic and Kostic that the relationship makes any sense at all. It's their palpable connection, and the fact that both actors lived through that horrible time, that makes the movie live.
Jolie wisely chose these actors based on their nationality and ability, and it would have been very easy, given her clout, to call up her buddies and have them pretend to be Bosnians. Instead, she insisted on the real deal, and it has benefitted the movie immensely. And while the filmmaking is occasionally inelegant, Jolie will certainly earn points for going out on a limb and depicting the atrocities of this conflict honestly. It will probably be too brutal for most to stomach, but those that do will witness an assured screen debut from a woman who clearly has more than just on-screen talents. [B]

  • Bryan Pazyk | December 20, 2011Reply
    Just saw a preview sponsored by the "New York Observer" and thought it Supberb! Review here is fair ; I thought movie was a home run , honest , historical and a complicated love story...... A strong portrayal , worldclass actors, powerful movie and also most entertaining !! Head and shoulders above most of the movie garbage out here !
  • Lindan | December 19, 2011Reply
    Nik Grape, according to what I've read from the reviews, it's going to be told on the side of the muslim women side of that Balkan war, the "victims" of this horrible ethnic cleansing. Do they deserve to have their stories told? Yes.
  • Nik Grape | December 19, 2011Reply
    The question is does it show the war as it really was or does it take the usual route of just showing how bad and evil the Serbs are?

Friday, December 16, 2011

More Globes, NYT Reaction

December 16, 2011, 2:00 pm

Angelina Jolie Gets Some Good News at the Dentist’s Office

The Golden Globe nominations on Thursday drew varied reactions from nominees and non-nominees alike. Then there was the power couple Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, who both snagged nominations. Mr. Pitt is up for best actor for “Moneyball,” while Ms. Jolie’s directing debut, “In the Land of Blood and Honey,” about the Bosnian war, is competing in the foreign-language category. Even without the controversies surrounding it, Ms. Jolie knows the film is a hard sell.

“It’s a really tough film to even ask people to sit and watch,” she said Thursday by phone from Los Angeles, adding that her greatest hope was “to start a dialogue, that’s all we’ve ever wanted, so this really means a lot to us and will help hopefully in our getting the film out.”

Angelina Jolie at the premiere of her film in Los Angeles. 
Danny Moloshok/R-MOLOSHOK, via Associated Press 
Angelina Jolie at the premiere of her film in Los Angeles.

Though the old joke is that what actors really want to do is direct, Ms. Jolie said that wasn’t something she aspired to. “I just was compelled to tell the story and kind of by default ended up as the director.”

Did the nomination feel like vindication for a first-time director? “Sure,” she said. Noting that the cast included survivors of the war, she added, “They were all putting their faith in me, and I’ve felt such a responsibility.”

In what was probably not the greatest segue, we pointed out that the the Hollywood Foreign Press Association seems to love her and her companion, Mr. Pitt. It gave “The Tourist,” in which she starred with Johnny Depp, a best picture nomination despite critical brickbats. But she doesn’t necessarily return the love. “You know I don’t read press, so that probably helps,” she said. “I don’t read anything written about me. I haven’t in my whole career.”

As for Mr. Pitt’s Golden Globe mention, Ms. Jolie reported that he was happy, both for himself and his co-star Jonah Hill, who is competing for best supporting actor: “We talked so briefly cause we’ve been running doing different things today; we saw each other for a second,” things that would include taking their children to the dentist, which is where she was when she heard the nomination news.

Like many of their fellow nominees, there was to be no celebration, however. “No, we have other things,” she said. “We’re trying to deal with Christmas wrapping and the tree. To us, when the work is done and when you do something you believe in, that’s the moment — not when other people acknowledge it.”


The Golden Globe Nominations: The Women

Awards by Melissa Silverstein | December 16, 2011

I like the Golden Globe show cause it's always goofy.  People drink, say funny stuff and you get TV and film people in one place.  People who are awards watchers don't take it too seriously because they have two different film categories -- comedy and drama -- which no other awards do.  The also kiss a lot of celebrity butt in order to have a star ladened show rather than a serious awards show.  So you must not take anything these people do too seriously.

But they do get coverage and they do get talked about so it matters that with 11 films nominated in the two categories there is not a single woman directed film nominated for best drama or best comedy/musical.  The Help and Bridesmaids continued their good week and I think that we will have to settle for one (The Help) or hopefully both of these films representing the chicks at the Oscars.  So it will be films about women that will represent women, not films by women.  But weirdly, the Bridesmaids writers did not get nominated here, nor did any other female film writers (except for Angelina Jolie who got a best foreign language film nomination).

There are two women directed films nominated, Best Animated Feature: Arthur Christmas directed by Sarah Smith, and In the Land of Blood and Honey directed by Angelina Jolie (which bizarrely qualifies as a foreign film even though the country it qualifies from is the United States.)  The film is quite good and shouldn't need this type of bullshit to get recognized.  Isn't the whole point of the category to highlight films from other countries, not just films in other languages?

Other thing to note - Glenn Close got two nominations.  One for best actress in Albert Nobbs and the other for best song.  She wrote the lyrics for Lay Your Head Down, a song from Albert Nobbs.  Who knew?

Wednesday, December 7, 2011

Angie & Meryl

What Angelina Jolie and Meryl Streep Have in Common

Blogs by Melissa Silverstein | December 7, 2011 | 
I know I am lucky.  I get to watch and think about movies and write about them and talk about them.  But being a blogger, I don't very often get to see the people in the movies or those who make the movies - especially when they are big stars. Yesterday was different -- I saw two major icons, two of the most genuine and powerful women in the film business Angelina Jolie and Meryl Streep.  Both are talking about their upcoming movies.  Streep is in The Iron Lady opening on December 30th and Angelina Jolie wrote and directed In the Land of Blood and Honey which is opening on December 23rd.
I have to say they were both beyond impressive.  First Jolie.
I'm not writing about the movie (which I really liked) this is about the woman.  This is about a woman who could really rest on her laurels, hang out with her kids and partner, make action films and bank enough money to retire by the time she is 40.  But she doesn't want to do that.  She wants to use whatever power she has for good and to educate people about important topics.
So she chose the Bosnian War.  Who the hell does that?  A war that people even the people who lived it don't talk about.  Oh and she showed up at the press conference with multiple cast members and had the whole thing moderated by NPR correspondent Tom Gjeltten who covered the war and was clearly moved by the authenticity she brought to the piece.  A big star like Jolie could have shown up at the press conference by herself or with the two leaad actors, but she didn't.  She brought many cast members, and they all spoke and shared incredibly moving stories of their experiences during the war.  One of the actors Ermin Sijamija was even in the army during the war.  This man was moved to tears when he talked about his experiences.
Here's what she said when talking about why she made the film:
"I had been haunted by years of traveling in the field by a lack of intervention to the trauma people face in post conflict situations and my frustration in seeing their pain and wondering if we could have prevented this, if we could have done something before...So I sat down privately to write something and this led me clearly to Bosnia because it was a war of my generation to my generation and it was one I felt a responsibility to learn about because I didn't know and the more I learned the more I was overwhelmed by the guilt of how little I knew and was shocked by how long this went on." 
This is the world's highest paid female movie star.  This is what she cares about.  This gives me hope.
Now to Ms. Streep. I finally got my chance to see The Iron Lady but I won't be writing about that today either (her performance is truly amazing.)
I've never seen her speak in person and she did a q and a with the director Phyllida Lloyd and my take away is that woman is completely genuine and it an incredibly fierce advocate for women, and especially for older women.  This is what interests her.  This is what she wants to talk about.  This is what she is passionate about.  And I for one am so glad because she's real.  Just like Angelina Jolie you don't get any sense of posturing.  This is who she is.
She wants to push the envelope.  And she says it much better than I do.
"I do have an interest in things we don't want to handle in movies or look at because I think anything forbidden is exciting.  Nudity is nothing, it's not really a provocation.  Try and talk about leaving and dying and all those things... And this particular take that Abi Morgan took with this screenplay was really great - 3 days in the life of of a little old lady who just happens to be the person who was the longest serving prime minister in the 20th century and the only female in the western world, who ruled a nuclear country.  Pretty interesting stuff to look at a life ebbing in its diminishment.  That really interested me."
She also is very interested in looking at women and power and leadership and here's what she said about that.
"This appealed to every feminist bone in my body and I know it is a dirty word nowadays, it did, the achievement, how she got there.  How hard it had to have been.  How she had to have been 10 times more prepared than everybody."
That almost made me weep.  To hear Meryl Streep talking about feminism and the movies.  And how interesting it is to have it enmeshed with Margaret Thatcher who no one would call a feminist ever.
I was able to get in a question about gender and her relationships to women - because there is a line in the film where she talks about how she prefers the company of men (and by the way she really is the only woman in the room throughout her political career).
Here's how she answered my question
"We live in a world still where sons are favored.  She was one of 2 daughters at a time when perhaps that was true in England, I don't presume to say, but we do know that that feeling exists a round the world and it's a vestigial one.  This father favored -- we feel -- this golden girl who seemed to be so bright and have so much promise but her road was very unusual.  We can't emphasize that enough.  First of all to get a place in chemistry at Oxford and then decide to read law and then decide to go into politics was unusual to say the least."
And lastly she was asked about what she wants people to take away from the movie and she talked about the invisibility of older women.
"I would like to think that when everybody got on the subway and saw some old lady sitting across that they would imagine that there was a whole huge life lay behind those wrinkles and that seemingly nondescript forgettable...  There is almost nothing less interesting in our consumerist society than an old lady. Dismissed.  We don't make movies for her, we don't give a damn, can't sell her anything because she doesn't buy anything...everything is in there and just to imagine that.  That's what I would hope."
Yesterday was this feminist girl's dream come true.  To see two such icons, to realize and to sense for myself their authenticity has me walking on air and knowing that it is great to hae women of their stature in our camp.