Wednesday, November 9, 2016




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From the point of view of generating publicity, Brad appearing for Moonlight took some of the wind of the sails of his appearance for Allied because now there is no longer any curiosity about the  "first photos of Brad."  That curiosity has been sated.

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The ET report that mentioned that they "spoke directly" to reach the agreement was edited since it was first posted.


This is the original:

Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt spoke directly to reach a new custody agreement, a source tells ET.

ET has learned that this agreement is separate from the voluntary safety plan implemented by the Department of Child and Family Services that was extended last month

 “This is what Brad and Angelina have decided between each other for the children,” the source added. “The agreement is also indefinite, so there is no time frame to it, it is in place until they decide to make a change... This is a good sign, it is the first step. This means one issue is now off the table for them.”

 “Back when Angelina first filed for divorce, she said that the reason she filed was for the safety and health and well-being of the kids and that has been her consistent point of view from the beginning,” the source explained. “Nothing has changed.”

“From the beginning, Brad only wants to do what’s best for the children," another source previously told ET. 
ET has also learned that the 52-year-old actor will not be withdrawing his petition for shared custody, as it “preserves his rights in the future.” 


And this is the edited.  I have placed in bold the notable new additions

 Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt spoke directly to reach a new custody agreement, a source tells ET.
The actress’ rep announced in a statement to ET on Monday that “childcare professionals have encouraged a legal agreement accepted and signed by both sides over a week ago.”

“In accordance with this agreement, the six children will stay in their mother's custody, and the children will continue therapeutic visits with their father,” the statement continued. “This has been determined by childcare professionals to be in the children’s best interest.” 

ET has learned that this agreement is separate from the voluntary safety plan implemented by the Department of Child and Family Services that was extended last month, and is the first step towards a more permanent custody agreement.

“This is what Brad and Angelina have decided between each other for the children,” the source added. “The agreement is also indefinite, so there is no time frame to it, it is in place until they decide to make a change... This is a good sign, it is the first step. This means one issue is now off the table for them.”

A source close to the Jolie-Pitt child custody dispute tells ET that the agreement referenced in Jolie's rep statement is not permanent. The agreement that is currently in place -- and agreed upon by the couple -- is only temporary until Pitt and Jolie continue to work out a more permanent child custody settlement.

Pitt filed his response to Jolie’s divorce petition on Friday and requested joint custody of the couple’s six children: 15-year-old Maddox, 12-year-old Pax, 11-year-old Zahara, 10-year-old Shiloh, and 8-year-old twins Knox and Vivienne. Jolie initially requested full custody in her filing in September.

 “Back when Angelina first filed for divorce, she said that the reason she filed was for the safety and health and well-being of the kids and that has been her consistent point of view from the beginning,” the source explained. “Nothing has changed.”

“Unlike Jolie’s side, Brad’s side is actually attempting to abide by the confidentiality agreement that both parties signed, something Angelina’s side has no interest in doing,” the source close to the Jolie-Pitt child custody battle tells ET. “From the beginning, Brad only wants to do what’s best for the children, and that’s not fighting this in the public press.” 

ET has also learned that the 52-year-old actor will not be withdrawing his petition for shared custody, as it “preserves his rights in the future.”

Brad's side was evidently furious at Judy Smith for going off-the-record to add that the agreement is indefinite. That it gives the impression that it is not temporary and could be permanent.  Of course it would look odd if he agreed to permanent sole custody for Angelina before he filed for joint custody.     The entire point of why they delayed announcing this agreement was to give Brad time to file without people questioning why he was responding with a request for joint custody after having agreed to sole custody. The "source" is likely Matthew Hiltzik, a PR and crisis manager, and Judy Smith's counterpart in Brad's team.  Hitzik and Smith, being rival crisis managers,  have likely clashed before.


Angelina would also not want to convey the impression that the agreement is permanent because it goes against what she has been saying repeatedly from the start that she never intended sole custody to be permanent.

Sept. 22
E! News has learned the 41-year-old actress doesn't intend for the custody situation to remain permanent. Rather, we're told she believes it's what's necessary right now, and she knows she and Pitt will need to co-parent together in the future for the sake of their children," 
 Oct. 20
Our Angelina sources say, even though she's headed to divorce court, she still wants their family to function with a fully involved father and mother.
Nov. 7
 Our Angelina sources say she ultimately wants the family repaired so she and Brad can resume a "normal" parenting regime, but until then she will fight hard for sole physical custody.

So this is simply Smith divulging too much and incurring the ire of Brad and his team.  I expect that Brad would have conveyed his displeasure to Angelina and that Angelina would have had a word with Judy Smith.


Smith should have just omitted the part that it was indefinite from her remarks, or just refrained from saying anything beyond the statement:
 “This is what Brad and Angelina have decided between each other for the children,” the source added. “The agreement is also indefinite, so there is no time frame to it, it is in place until they decide to make a change... This is a good sign, it is the first step. This means one issue is now off the table for them.”

 “Back when Angelina first filed for divorce, she said that the reason she filed was for the safety and health and well-being of the kids and that has been her consistent point of view from the beginning,” the source explained. “Nothing has changed.”

Although I have already pointed out that Brad agreeing to an "indefinite" agreement is another sign that he trusted Angelina -- that she would not seek to keep it in place longer than necessary.  So despite the angry tone of his PR towards her PR, the fact that they finally spoke and signed this agreement is actually a good sign that they are starting to repair their relationship.


Smith had said something similar to Us
According to an insider close to Jolie, the agreement is not temporary. “There is no expiration date on the agreement," the insider explains. "The only way for this agreement to change is if both parties agree to a change or Brad must file a completely new motion to go to court."

"not temporary" = permanent and I am VERY sure Angelina did not want Smith to give the public this impression


Smith inspired the TV Show Scandal so she is something of a super star.  She is used to being able to do things her way.

This is probably the reason why Angelina in the past did not have a publicist.  She has no control over what is said for her.


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Guest brought the new People article to my attention:

Here is what's new since the rest just repeats from past articles.
“The last few weeks have been tough for Brad,” a source close to the family tells PEOPLE in this week’s issue. “He has been very unhappy with the arrangement to see his kids.”

For now, per a temporary recommendation by L.A.’s Department of Children and Family Services, which has been investigating the family following allegations Pitt was verbally and physically abusive towards their son Maddox, Pitt has only been able to see their kids during supervised visits.

“Brad doesn’t want supervised visits,” says the source. “He loves his kids and wants to spend more time with them.”

I know some of you are very sensitive about any perceived negative media slant but this isn't anti-Angelina, this is Brad showing us that he is angry with the DCFS.   And he has been for some time.  Recall the statement from earlier last month:

He “has been absolutely devastated and heartbroken by the events of the past several weeks, both in terms of how those events have been wrongfully portrayed and how they have threatened to jeopardize his family’s ability to heal and move forward.”
He was saying even then (Oct. 5) that the DCFS' actions "have threatened to jeopardize his family’s ability to heal and move forward."  And that is because of all the restrictions he has to live under.   There is a protective order against him so he can't directly contact or go near anyone including Angelina.

But the supervised visits are upon the therapists' recommendations and apparently the therapist feels the children are not ready to be alone with him.  So is he saying that he doesn't agree with the therapist?  The therapist is a trained professional.  He is questioning the therapists' judgement?

Which would obviously mean that he can't be happy with the agreement he and Angelina just signed. 
childcare professionals have encouraged a legal agreement accepted and signed by both sides...the six children will stay in their mother's custody, and the children will continue therapeutic visits with their father. 
And that was why he was VERY upset when Smith's off-the-record statement was (mis)interpreted to mean that it could be permanent. But while Smith probably shouldn't have given additional remarks, it did seem that they(he) were over-reacting,  even invoking the confidentiality agreement they signed, over a sentence most ignored.  It's not like the agreement was going to become permanent just because some people interpreted Smith's remarks that way.


Is it wise for him  to publicly contest the DCFS' recommendations.?  They could make life harder for him and prolong his misery. 





41 comments:

  1. Yes, there is a lot of anger coming from his side, he is ashamed and angry that things are exposed. I felt from the begging that he was angry that someone called child protection and I never believed that was airplane personnel - I think it was someone in their party who he thinks has something against him and therefore exaggerated the events and created bigger mess than possible and made difficult for the family to fix things( he said that in his statement). If Angelina is still close with that person, he might be angry at her because of that too (I am not gonna speculate who that person might be, but there are maybe three people on that plane who would fit that profile). It could be possible that he sees himself as a victim in this situation and not the sole reason of all what happened. Anyhow, these are just my thoughts, but all these new developments, including this statement that Angelina is leaking things, makes me think that things are pretty bad between them.

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    1. They are mad at Judy Smith not Angelina. They're saying his PR is staying mum while hers is talking too much. But Smith is a big star on her own. She is not used to being told what to do. But the whole point of the article was that they finally got to speak directly.

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    2. I don't know about that Fussy. I think those words " From the beginning, Brad only wants to do what's best for the children, and that's not fighting this in public press" is directed at Angelina - she wants to do it in the press, he doesn't. Remember, one of the first leaks from his side was how he asked her to wait with filing because press is going to go crazy and it's bad for the kids?
      Also, I don't believe anything Angelina's team says goes without her approval. As you said before, everything is there to send a messege. I think Angelina and her team wanted to clear things about custody, and he was angry about that, and yes, angry at Angelina.
      Also, isn't it weird that they themselves signed the confidentiality agreement?

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    3. That statement was edited. It was in the original post and said "From the beginning, Brad only wants to do what's best for the children." After they clarified that the agreement was not permanent they added "and that's not fighting this in public press."

      Brad's friend said, "he was appealing to her to do this quietly – not to save the marriage but to consider the well-being of the children – and it was ignored,” -- This was before he understood why she needed to file. That she had signed a safety plan under guidelines that would normally only give the children to the other spouse if they were separated or divorced.

      The 2 paragraph statement that was released was very carefully worded, but Smith's off-the-record remarks are her own. I would look at the official statement for clues but not Smith's statement.

      And because Brad knows that Angelina does NOT intend for sole custody to be permanent and she has said so publicly from the start I am very sure he knows that she would not want to give the public the impression that this agreement was permanent. He would be sure of this.
      So no, I am VERY sure their anger is not directed at Angelina

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    4. There is nothing in the statement about custody that needs clarification. What was important was to let the public know that Brad still needs supervised visitation. Saying that the agreement was "indefinite" was superfluous because clearly they can't know how long Brad will still supervised visits with the kids.

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    5. Thank you Fussy for the detailed explanation. I appreciate it. Your explanation makes sense. I guess also then the confidentiality agreement they are referring is the one signed by the members of their team, not by Brad and Angelina themselves?

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    6. Fussy, this particularly point always looks odd to me:
      brad's friend said "he was appealing to her TO DO THIS QUIETLY"
      To do this quietly? when DCFS was involved? It's impossible. I start to think that maybe some of his friends had not the all information when they said that.

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    7. I would think yes, that the people that would be asked to sign confidentiality are all the members of their respective teams just as they would normally ask anyone they hire to sign. They don't have to worry about the DCFS because confidentiality is part of the rules.

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    8. EZAIZA -- That was very early, like the day after the news broke. Brad was still very much in the dark about a lot of things. And remember, Angelina couldn't talk to him directly to explain what was happening with the DCFS on her end and why she filed

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    9. But it says "confidentiality agreement that both parties signed" so apparently also the two of them. It may also be something that DCFS may require from all parties.

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    10. Fussy Judie Smith if hired by Angelina or not is not making her look good, I wish Angelina didn't have to resort to issuing statements its only flaming more flames like Brad said it could have been done quietly. Now it looks like they are pissing each other off her via public statements and him through sources and this isn't leading to healing for them as family nor partners. I just had high hope when there was no news. Now Brad has lost weight he's getting all the positive POOR BRAD press and Angelina is still being vilified as the bad guy.

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  3. I don't think Angelina's team is leaking anything her team has been trying to protect the family including Brad where as his is only trying to protect him. If he's mad at anyone it should be himself. It's not his wife's fault, his son's fault or the person who reported fault. Brad shouldn't have acted out and got drunk, the fact that that boy felt his mother was in danger that he needed to step in that speaks volumes.

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  4. He wants it to be private because he looks bad. I think he wants to give her sole custody but doesn't want it to be public knowledge. Wow he turned out to be a bigger disappointment than I originally thought.

    Angelina is looking bad in the public eye so it's her teams job to fix that and put the truth out if it clears her name.

    Funny how that works right? He abused her and the kids but she has to clear her name.

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  5. Reminds me of Lainey's cynical remarks on Brad.

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  6. Fussy, I totally disagree with the idea that angie has no control over what said her spoken person for her. Maybe you dont like the statement. Do you believe that angie let a publicist or even O. Pope (lol) say (or write) a single word without her authorization? No way. She is the boss, pay a big paycheck to Smith.

    @Stacy reed said exactly my thought: "It's not his wife's fault, his son's fault or the person who reported fault." Its himself.

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    1. I am VERY sure Angelina did not want to give the impression that it is permanent. First of all she that is not her intent and she has said so numerous times.
      But the Us article said: "According to an insider close to Jolie, the agreement is not temporary.“ And not temporary = permanent.

      Smith did not give off-the-record statements to all sites, just 2 that I've run across. So talking off the record was not part of the general plan. Just releasing the statement.

      So I strongly disagree. Smith did not run all her comments by Angelina.

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    2. But they were also perhaps making too big a deal about it. The terms -- sole custody and therapeutic visitation - rather than the duration of the agreement was what almost everyone was interested in.

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    3. Fussy have you seen People new Brad PR sources article?
      Inside Brad Pitt's Bold Custody Move: He 'Loves His Kids and Wants to Spend More Time with Them,' Says Source
      http://people.com/movies/inside-brad-pitts-bold-custody-move/

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    4. I HATE this Brad Vs Angelina BS By their sources its making both look bad and petty.

      “Brad doesn’t want supervised visits,” says the source. “He loves his kids and wants to spend more time with them.”

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    5. Of course he doesn't want supervised visits, who would want supervised visits with their kids? But, he got himself into this mess and there is the reason why childcare professionals adviced that. So he has to live with it for a while, and stop whining about it.
      Lol, no idea what is exactly in that article, but People is super on his side, so I can imagine!

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    6. In the People article, Brad is showing he is angry at the DCFS for the supervised visits. It isn't anti-Angelina and there is no anti-Angelina quote from any "source". But I will just comment further in the post because its easier to write there.

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    7. Thanks Fussy I 'll wait for your write up, its just getting frustrating to me all of a sudden seeing him without the ring and it just hit me that he has moved on.I just had hope from your write ups that there is hope between them in her statements. But now appears its only about the kids and nothing about them and that I find sad.

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  7. I don't see anything wrong with the statements from Angelina's team her team hasn't bashed him in anyway her team's job is to take care of their client and her children. Them setting a few things straight in order to clear their client's name so be it. If that ruffled Brad's feathers who cares this isn't about him and he's in no position to be trying to call shots at the moment. Her team's statement aren't putting him in a bad light his actions on that plane did that.

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    1. Sarah I'm starting to lean towards your take. I mean his side just put out there a confidentiality agreement was signed and someone is breaking and its not his side. Jolie needs get with her team and find the leaks if there is any ounce of truth to this. I can't understand why anyone with 6 kids would think it would ok to fight in the press about this. Maybe someone on her team thinks its a good strategy but I wouldn't even care about how much of a good guy image he has, let him keep it, he will have to deal with guilt I would care less. There are 6 kids whose privacy needs to be protected at all cost so it needs to be handled quietly. This is just a big mess with all these sources claiming their from her side and it just makes her look freaking bad. Just say DCFS comes back and says there was no evidence of abuse, then what? Someone may think their helping her but their not, its becoming more & more damaging in my opinion.

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    2. Brad's team just objected to the impression that Judy Smith gave that the agreement is permanent. And the fact that Judy Smith was giving off the record remarks instead of just releasing the statement.

      We're not talking about any big leaks. Most people who read Smith's remarks probably didn't give it a second thought.

      That the DCFS opened an investigation and kept it open for 2 months is already an indication that they found "abuse". But their findings are confidential and will not be released.

      In my previous post I noted that a Brad source said, "Once those cases close, either DCFS or the FBI have the option to recommend charges or refer the case to another court." So Brad is apparently expecting that there could be charges or more court hearings

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    3. Never again, it's obvious her team released a statement on her behalf because Brad's team initially claimed she was trying to smear his name. Brad is trying to play a game here by signing the agreement but publicly filing for joint custody. He doesn't want the public to know he lost custody and he is trying to appear as if he's fighting for his kids because that's what people expect from a decent man who loves his kids. Hogwash. He already lost. He needs to stop playing the games and she wouldn't have to release statements clearing her name. No way in hell should she let him come out of this looking like the good guy ... He's not. She needs to fight to protect herself too.

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    4. Angie shouldn't allow herself to be painted as the bad
      guy for a second time.
      She took all the blows at the start of the relationship,she shouldn't have to take them now.
      When he filed his divorce papers,it could have been made clear that Angie would keep physical custody for the present and he would seek joint in the future.
      That way, you would not have had TMZ screaming 'custody war' and Angie would not have had to release a clarification.
      There are some PR games being played on Brad's side because he has more to loose.
      Angie has more experience than Brad in dealing with adversity.
      Also she has never hidden her faults,so has nothing to fear.

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    5. @gennline
      Angie is already painted as the bad guy. She is used to it, I'm sure. What she cares, as always, are the children - she has them around her, and I am sure, that is the only important thing to her now.

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    6. Shame her husband no longer see's it that way.

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  9. Angelina only seems to correct things when it is implied that she is the one keeping the children from Brad.
    Clearly that is not the case.
    Also she clearly does not want the idea of a 'custody war' left unchallenged.
    I'm not convinced Judy Smith is working for her.
    It could simply be someone on the team of her entertainment lawyers, because a lot of these reports are coming from entertainment sites.
    Angie famously does not like anyone to speak for her,so anything on record she will be aware of.
    Also she is a straight talker,she doesn't play games.

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  10. I'm fed up of all these people talking
    It's confusing.It's a fog. Bitter dispute.
    Give your name you gossipers.

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  11. It's a very hard situation for anyone, Angelina , Brad , the kids
    Havig DCFS involved is bad enough, living it in front of the world is awful. Add to this your beloved family falling apart..... Inbelievable.
    Have compassion people. Tears.

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  12. The man has to work , he has obligations, he can't just sit , sleep, crying on himself .He has six children. Their mother isn't working for the time being.

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    1. Yeah, and it's up to Angelina to make sure her children are cared for while daddy dearest travels and works and pretends he didn't abuse his kids

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    2. They are not living paycheck to paycheck. They have enough money for both of them to never have to work again, neither them nor their children.
      They are working because they want to, not because they have to, and that is, of course, completely ok.

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    3. Brad and Angie are millionaires. They don`t need to work another day in their lives to raise their children. and noboby believe that BRAD sat and cry this whole time. he`s to busy blaming others for his mistakes.

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    4. Oh, he will have plenty of time to work, work, and work from this point on. She seems to be a primary caregiver now so he has a lot of time on his hands but work which was what he did last couple of years. He can have his HW friends for support thus who needs family. Overrated is all.

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  13. I guess their have got a solid bank account, just an speculation lol
    their mother had got a paycheck of 20 millions for Maleficent just two years ago...

    Now talking seriously, of course they must move on, like tonight. he will be there at the premiere and later at china, paramount is not a charity organization

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  14. My coment was a reply to Melody.

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