Tuesday, November 8, 2016

Random Fuzzy 2

Let's look more carefully at whether there any disputed facts in any of the statements by Angelina's rep

"We can confirm that childcare professionals have encouraged a legal agreement accepted and signed by both sides over a week ago. In accordance with this agreement, the six children will stay in their mother's custody, and the children will continue therapeutic visits with their father. This has been determined by childcare professionals to be in the children's best interest." 
"We are not in a position to discuss the details. We hope now that it is clear that the events which led to the dissolution filing involved minor children and their wellbeing, there will be understanding of the sensitivity of the family situation. We believe that all sides are committed to healing the family and ask for your consideration during this difficult time."

ET's follow up

ET has learned that this agreement is separate from the voluntary safety plan implemented by the Department of Child and Family Services that was extended last month
 “This is what Brad and Angelina have decided between each other for the children,” the source added. “The agreement is also indefinite, so there is no time frame to it, it is in place until they decide to make a change... This is a good sign, it is the first step. This means one issue is now off the table for them.”


“There is no expiration date on the agreement," the insider explains. "The only way for this agreement to change is if both parties agree to a change or Brad must file a completely new motion to go to court."
Another source tells Us that Jolie “will retain temporary sole physical custody of the children until the investigations are closed and then they will workout custody from there." 

Now lets look at TMZ which has aggressively disputed AP's report on the statements
 A story is circulating Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie have settled their custody dispute ... total BS.
Multiple sources familiar with the situation are scoffing at the report that the divorcing couple struck a settlement giving Angelina primary physical custody while Brad got visitation.

But neither the official nor the off the record statements used the word "settlement."  It clearly states that it is a "legal agreement."  Neither are there claims that it is a "new" agreement" or even a "separate agreement."  What Smith said to ET was that it was "separate from the voluntary safety plan implemented by the Department of Child and Family Services that was extended last month."
Which I don't think anyone disputes. 
The report published by Associated Press cites an Angelina source who says the couple reached the mutual agreement which includes family therapy. In fact, the couple agreed to extend the temporary arrangement ONLY until the L.A. County Dept. of Children and Family Services closes its investigation.
This is where there is some disagreement since Smith did not say that it was tied to the investigation, -- which as other sites have noted, she did not reference at all.  She said, “The agreement is also indefinite, so there is no time frame to it, it is in place until they decide to make a change."  She does not say it is permanent.

As TMZ and other outlets reported, Brad and Angelina agreed she would have physical custody during the DCFS investigation and Brad would have visitation monitored by a therapist. That agreement was extended last week, but it is NOT a settlement. That will be handled by the family court judge.

Again, Brad just filed docs Friday asking for joint custody, and the AP report says the couple reached a settlement last week, so the story makes no sense on its face.
Nothing else here.

TMZ is just miffed that they've clearly lost their exclusive line to Angelina since they were not sent a copy of the statement even after AP posted its report.

CNN posted:
Pitt's side says that no formal, permanent custody agreement has been decided upon yet, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
"This was simply an extension of the existing temporary agreement, which was voluntary and is still temporary," the source said. "There is no new agreement. No permanent custody has been determined."
There is also nothing here that disputes what the original statement said.

We know that as a practical matter the agreement is temporary because Angelina has said repeatedly that she wants the children to have a normal relationship with Brad once their safety is assured.

I think it is worth pointing out that in signing an "indefinite" agreement, Brad was again showing that he trusted Angelina -- that she would not make it difficult for him once the DCFS closes its case.  Though it was not explicitly spelled out, they both know that it is only temporary until the children are safe and ready and he trusted that Angelina would not try to enforce this beyond that time.

E! News has learned the 41-year-old actress doesn't intend for the custody situation to remain permanent. Rather, we're told she believes it's what's necessary right now, and she knows she and Pitt will need to co-parent together in the future for the sake of their children,"

Our Angelina sources say, even though she's headed to divorce court, she still wants their family to function with a fully involved father and mother.

Angelina could set the wheels in motion for a default judgment since Brad hasn't answered her petition, but we're told that is not going to happen. She agrees ... healing the family is the priority,

 That said, Jolie “is not trying to poison the kids against Brad,” another source previously told Us. “She wants them to have a relationship with him once their health and safety is assured.”

Our Angelina sources say she ultimately wants the family repaired so she and Brad can resume a "normal" parenting regime, but until then she will fight hard for sole physical custody


  1. How could Brad let it come to this? What happened to him?
    Therapeutic Supervised Visitations
    Normally high-conflict families who are at risk for domestic violence, physical or verbal abuse, and parents with a history of very poor parenting skills require the use of therapeutic supervised visitation programs.
    Overall, it is very important to fully understand the needs of your family and case before making an informed decision as to whether reunification therapy or therapeutic supervised visitations are best. As noted above, therapeutic supervised visitations are best utilized for parents who are in need of parenting skills training or for a short-term solution for a non-custodial parent to keep in contact with their child. As for reunification therapy, the goals are for a long-term solution for parents who are being “reunified” with their children. Typically, reunification occurs under the supervision of a clinician who will build a unique treatment plan for the family’s specific needs.

  2. Agility, it says something that his family - brother and parents- haven't come out to defend him. They must be on team kids too

  3. I know I'm reaching but...there is a new picture of Brad with Julia Roberts,and he has very short hair. It probably doesn't mean anything but I'll be very sad if he goes back to being Mr. Hollywood :( sad for the kids,sad for Angie,sad that he (Angie probably is too) is seemingly giving up on a 12 year relationship and going back to that 'circle'.If he goes back to his Hollywood friends people are going to say that it was true that Angie kept him from his 'friends' ,even if is not true. Legit so sad right now! What if he's not wearing his ring tomorrow? :(

  4. Bianca Rosa, are you saying there is a new pic of Brad since the plane incident? Can you tell where you find it? Thanks.

    1. https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14956559_1236257316445369_7179763766384661261_n.jpg?oh=9357049c669b8d43be504fd961bb0e01&oe=58D22A90

    2. Thanks Bianca. Is this some promotion for moonlight? I didn`t know Julia Roberts was part of the movie. Sad that he is working, laughing and not focus on the mess he create it. I don`t want to make you sad Bianca but he is not going to be wearing his wedding ring tomorrow. Sad all around.

    3. He looks smug and so does Julia she never liked Angelina any way she is team Aniston and of course he isnt going to wear his ring, he will have his friends supporting him.

    4. This is a surprise. i'm very disappointed in this man and not liking him at the moment.

      He'll be sorry if he doesn't fix his relationship.

  5. Lainey has the picture and her last sentence of her post has me legit heartbroken, I feel silly :(

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  7. https://twitter.com/SashahAskari/status/795887368033026048
    Looks like Brad is out promoting Moonlight with Julia Roberts SMH back in his old gang of freinds.

  8. Brad has worked with Julia Roberts while married to Angelina. People have to stop with this tabloid mentality that nobody likes Angie. It`s so silly.

  9. This who he is the golden boy his Hollywood friends love him and now they have him back. The press has attacked his wife and their eldest son he hasn't released a statement defending neither one. Hope Angelina and the kids are alright.

  10. I have to say i'm disapointed, I thought he would have pull out of his obligations in these circonstances and work on Healing his family.
    But we have to understand they are not in jail.